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OWE & Provision-- negotiation in the reconciling centre
217 [22649] Posted by: Bowman Monday 17 December 2012 - 04:28pm
Mordor?

Analogies: The end of anti-Judaism, not the end of slavery
218 [22646] Posted by: Bowman Sunday 16 December 2012 - 11:07pm
Advocates for change on Those Topics have often tried to reach the consciences of conservatives with an analogy from the abolition of slavery in the 19th C to some more egalitarian policy today. Although the memory of Wilberforce certainly has resonance for evangelicals, the analogy doesn't seem to open hearts or minds. # It strikes me that one reason for this is that, although churches were complicit with slavery in many places, the ecumenical Church herself never advocated slavery as a good thing commanded by Christ that would bring the world nearer to the Kingdom the more it spread, and so the abolition of slavery is not a convincing example of magisterial change. And that's the problem-- when churches stop teaching one thing and start teaching its opposite, they really do have to give themselves and the world a very authoritative explanation for this change. By definition, liberals don't worry much about this, and conservatives worry about little else. What sort of explanation is a good one? # Nearer the centre, Andrew Goddard has already offered Fulcrum a better precedent for persuasive argument from scripture about changes in morality-- John Calvin's case for relaxation of the Church's prohibition against usury. But where doctrine is also at stake, the 20th C example of the New Israel's changed relationship to Judaism is possibly the biggest change ever made, and arguably more profound than any change being contemplated today in relation to Those Topics. Yet it has been embraced across Christendom, from Popes who view the Chief Rabbis of Rome as colleagues to American evangelicals zealously protective of the State of Israel. Moreover, a generation later, the Church is not divided within between those who support the change and those who oppose it, though some at the extreme margins grumble. The pilgrim Church does not pass any place on the road twice, but when she considers a change of route to her destination, this may be the experience to learn from.

Yes 2 Women Bishops website
219 [22645] Posted by: Bowman Sunday 16 December 2012 - 08:22pm
Phil-- As you distribute balls to courts, you might post a short abstract of your argument that includes its motivation, present significance, and conclusion. As I mentioned a while back, different suppositions about those features of it can lead to different assessments of it. And others may want to give a fuller account of the same features of their counterarguments, since these features seem to vary even among persons who would vote the same way on OWE. # For just one example, offered in an irenic spirit, Ian probes whether a power differential leading to coercion can be inferred from the asymmetry that you describe, and how, if so, that reading can be objectively prevented from validating violence against women. I think that this is a valid inquiry in its own right-- and a concern that Angela and Clare have both raised about this discussion-- but it was not easy for me to see its relevance to the argument I took you to be offering. Perhaps I just misunderstood your argument; perhaps your it was ambiguous; perhaps his counterargument was. # To be clear, the open policy question in 2012 was not OWE itself, but effective provision in the Church of England for those with scruples against it. Your argument demonstrates that these scruples are based in a not unreasonable reading of scripture traditional in the Church of England, and that, wisely or not, these scruples may be expected to endure so long as the scriptures are read. This lends support to the view that those who believe the church to be "under scripture" are obliged to choose-- either revise their view of the church's magisterium to account for the reversal of its past teaching, or else support an offer of serious provision for those following what the Church of England has long taught about the scriptures and coexist gracefully with it. I believe that there is indeed such a choice for Anglicans everywhere and, absent any consensus on magisterial change, see no honest alternative to the latter view. However robust, the case for OWE cannot in itself change that. # No single argument can settle this. Determining the most scriptural view of OWE requires that we compare alternate views on women, the episcopate, and the establishment. It is hard to compare arguments that are not made, and I share the exasperation of Tom Wright and the readers from Durham who posted here on the absence of robust arguments from scripture for OWE. # Though I visualise the risks more broadly, I agree with you that Anglicans have unjustly expected women to serve as ordained ministers without making an adequate scriptural case, both to them and to the world, for what they do. That is the direct cause of the emotional reactions of those distressed by the vote on the Measure. I attribute this surprising failure, both in The Episcopal Church and in the Church of England, to the sin of "decision by campaign," in which arguments are offered only as they are expedient for warring factions with minds far from God. Imitating Plato's Thrasymachus (The Republic) but not the Christ who reconciles all divisions to the glory of the Father, they want what they want and say what they want to get it, nothing more. But the wrath of God against sin is further down our queue, and I will wait.

Anglican church planting-- who knows what works?
220 [22639] Posted by: Bowman Saturday 15 December 2012 - 04:21pm

Wise villagers of Fulcrum have been so generous in suggesting readings in the past that I turn to them with another request-- where should one turn for an Anglican theology, theory, and practise of church planting that works? Readings etc are very welcome, as always, but I am not less interested in good people, either exemplars or thinkers-- achieving sustainable growth with spiritual depth on the ground, or else thinking about models for difficult places. They could be in the UK or elsewhere. They could be reading this post.

My question emerges from prayer, not yet from a plan, but the concern is clear-- much of New England is mission territory today, especially in rural parts of the region affected by unemployment and poverty. Fresh starts are needed because in many areas (e.g. Maine) there aren't churches to expand. Moreover, some of these areas are probably easier than others. I am fortunate to be at the centre of a very creative place working on myriad global problems, but I see less of that informed, pragmatic idealism on this problem than there should be. Somehow, that must change.

Prayer is always helpful.


OWE & Provision-- negotiation in the reconciling centre
221 [22638] Posted by: Bowman Saturday 15 December 2012 - 03:13pm

The news that the bishops plan a serious negotiation was not unexpected, but the best news in it is that the several positions on this matter will all be represented. And whilst it is unfair to raise expectations on Justin Welby, it is likely that he will be able to lead the participants away from the usual mistakes that beginners make in negotiations. Let us pray for this.  #   Warmakers are rarely talented peacemakers because the mindsets differ profoundly. The most serious temptation is for those who have perfected the hardline demand as a tool for rallying support to believe that this will also work in a negotiation. This is rarely true, and it is unlikely in this case, but leaders of campaigns can fail to see this reality through an inability to master the transition from rallying to bargaining. What generally works when old adversaries meet is firmness about core principles and flexibility about details in the search for an agreement that works for everyone. But effectiveness at this demands traits that are actually a liability in the speaking for the crowd that gets one a leadership position-- a resilient ego that lets small offences pass, a capacity to enter deeply into the hearts of opponents, the confidence to lead supporters rather just speak for them, the curiosity to search for common ground with an open mind, etc.   #   Leaders who are fit for all phases of the life of a campaign are rare, but campaigns are seldom organised for graceful succession. To those who actually are leaders, it is very hard to accept that they are no longer the right voices for an undertaking to which they have given their all. Very often, their followers face this reality first, and are then faced with a nasty problem of succession or division, greatly complicated by the natural loyalties of partisans. It is important that the discussions on the next Measure not be held hostage to leadership "drama." There just isn't time for it.    #    Thus far, the public statements from leaders of Reform and the Catholic Group have been helpful, but I have not yet seen anything from leaders of WATCH or GRAS that shows the same realism and maturity. Naturally, I greatly hope that those on all sides are encouraging their negotiators to do the right thing.   #   Years on the losing side may well have taught traditionalists much more than years on the winning but impatient side have taught those who expected to dictate the terms of the final Measure without making difficult choices. So whatever the personal struggles of leaders, "followers"-- this may mean you, dear reader--  must themselves have forgiving and inquiring hearts that know their core convictions, and they must plainly assure negotiators of their principled but flexible support through the fresh thinking of a creative venture. Let us pray that those with a bit of influence use it quickly.


She will not be comforted
222 [22637] Posted by: Bowman Saturday 15 December 2012 - 05:42am

There is no way to address a grief like Rachael’s, and she stubbornly refuses everyone who tries. She refuses, in other words, to have the unspeakable reality of innocent suffering  diminished in any way by attempts to assuage or explain it. Rachael is a witness to the things in human life that are so awful that they cannot be addressed, explained or repaired. They can only be wept over, lamented, mourned.

Rachael, in her single keening voice gives voice to all the keening mothers of Bethlehem’s babies, and to the un-voiceable anguish of every parent, family, clan and nation from whom children have ever been torn away and destroyed by a police state, by Jim Crow or apatheid, by political greed and indifference, by the glorification of war, by random violence, or by crushing poverty. Rachael will not be hushed about these things. She will not be pacified.

But we are surrounded by hushing, pacifying voices — knowing voices that explain and justify the unfortunate necessity of innocent suffering, as if it happens all by itself without human complicity: Guns don’t kill people…. Cool voices that cover up or prettify what violence actually does. False voices that paint a sanctified picture of the meaning of suffering. Pragmatic voices of tyrants. Pandering voices of politicians.  Patriotic voices of presidents and generals. Blaming voices of the self-made. Aloof, pious voices (God help us!) too often of the church.

At the start of a new year, especially one that will almost certainly see at least one new war unleashed on this gasping planet, the stubborn wail of Rachael weeping for her children urges us to resist and to refuse those false voices of explanation, rationalization, justification, and obfuscation of all the things that are just not right and which must not be condoned.

Rachael’s grief, never to be comforted, urges us also to rip apart with our own lamentation (and our own repentance) the curtain behind which hides the greatest lie –that it just can’t be helped, that we have no choice but to stand by and accept the suffering of the innocent, the enslavement and destruction of the future. For the stuff of her life is the stuff of ours: the murder of innocents, whether it be lives destroyed in office buildings in New York, hospitals with inadequate supplies in Iraq, famine in Ethiopia, orphanages in Rwanda, school buses in Tel Aviv, a shot-up elementary school in your small town, or razed homes in the little town of modern Bethlehem.

When Rachael makes her brief appearance on the Christmas stage; when this wailing mother of a dead child shows up beside a sleeping child watched over by a virgin tender and mild, we are also reminded, thankfully, that what human words cannot speak of adequately or truthfully, God’s Word, the word we experience in Jesus, can.

The babe who escaped this time, the child whom one Herod could not find, but who will be found by another Herod in thirty-three years’ time and will not escape him then — this child is God’s final Word to our world. It is a Word of comfort Rachael might finally accept, for it is a Word of justice. A Word from a Voice clear and true, a ‘yes’ profound enough and persevering enough (through trial, cross and grave) to address whatever horrific stuff our living and dying, our ignorance, sin and fear can present.

Now and forever it is spoken powerfully against the powers-that-be, defeating death itself — even ours, if we follow its resonance and welcome its light.

-- The Rev. J. Mary Luti, "A Voice in Ramah," Sermon for the Feast of the Holy Innocents, more here.


To be clear, general synods do not directly cause suicide
223 [22635] Posted by: Bowman Friday 14 December 2012 - 12:01pm
But they are the hallmark of the "institutional Protestantism" that substitutes interest group politics for the "sacred canopy" that enables ties that somewhat immunise those in strong communities of faith against suicide, among other uniquely human afflictions. The communities with the best protection have rich, dense connections with ample and loving personal space. They avoid the unhealthy extremes of either "DIY" ( = do it yourself ) life meaning in a church of one or the "greedy group" unable to assimilate, say, those with sexual struggles or a sceptical sort of mind. And unsurprisingly, the most successful church planting enables the God-spell to draw mere individuals into weak and strong ties to supportive groups of believers that enable them to emerge as persons in Christ. That, I suspect, is what most villagers have wanted the Church of England to be "in every community," and it is a breathtakingly noble ideal that most of them are lucky to work for every day. So when I read in these threads and elsewhere about the depth of personal investment that persons on both sides of the debate have in OWE, I worry about them, both individually and collectively. I worry that good people in a church already too far out the DIY end of the spectrum are "righteously" pushing each other even farther out. I worry that personal faith is being strained, and that weeds are being sown under circling crows where seeds might have flourished. If that really is the case, it must stop soon. # Fulcrum began, as I understand it, to clear some needed personal space for Anglican evangelicals wary of conservative reaction away from dangerous DIY religion toward the other extreme of the dangerous "greedy group." In that way, the founding of the village was a cautious step toward a stronger community of faith. It has been so successful in opening this patch of ground that some now grumble that Fulcrum is "liberal," which is an ironic tribute to several years of work done by its volunteer leaders, essayists, and benefactors. # Some Fulcrum essays this year, especially those by Stephen Kuhrt, have pointed more explicitly beyond openness toward the principled centrism that made it necessary. Evangelicals, attracted to the national church in no small part because of its inspiring opportunities for saving the lost, have a duty to support the wide sacred canopy under which social pathology, both inside the church and around it, can be healed in Christ. That Stephen wrote this year about Christmas truces, avoiding liberal ecclesiology, supporting summer church camps, and playing cricket must reflect a playful turn of mind, but it also shows the felicity of the centre where unity values personality. Fulcrum will have an interesting year in 2013 in any case, but if it continues to find ways to promote synergy at a centre so conceived, then its positive influence is apt to increase. When the risen Lord appeared to his disciples, his words to them were, no longer didactic, but relational.

OWE & Provision-- negotiation in the reconciling centre
224 [22634] Posted by: Bowman Friday 14 December 2012 - 03:14am
What might several prosperous parishes do for the ministry of women, especially lay women, if commissioned to do something new for them as part of a reconciling Provision?

Yes 2 Women Bishops website
225 [22633] Posted by: Bowman Friday 14 December 2012 - 02:54am
Phil-- Thank you, as always, for the favour of a thoughtful reply to my brief comment on the position now taken on "OWE and Provision" by Reform and the Catholic Group. My own thoughts about it are in the thread of that name. Briefly, a robust provision for traditionalists with a duty to support women's ministries in their own way would meet the stated expectations of all voices open to reconciliation, and patient negotiators will inevitably discover this. This may require moral courage for some to accept, but it is not a hard problem, and there are several good ways to implement the obvious solution. # Your query about your exegesis is a hard problem because what you are really asking is whether the Church of England is under scripture if it has no official forum for the adjudication of an appeal from the scriptures, such as the ones some presbyterian churches now have (eg The Permanent Judicial Commission of the Presbyterian Church USA). I do not know; that would be an innovation for Anglicans, but then so are these everlasting synods that all modern Protestant churches have. You have a valid point-- if the machinery for decisions by campaigning exists, why not the machinery for decisions explicitly grounded in the scriptures? I wholly agree. # The English bishops are not in my province, but I suspect that the last of your reasons is the most important to a plurality of them-- a century is long enough to debate anything. # Thank you again, both for the exegesis itself, and for our discussion of hypotasso. My schedule limits my posts, but I continue to think about both.

Redefining Marriage
226 [22632] Posted by: Bowman Friday 14 December 2012 - 01:14am
Ken-- In many of the world's traditional societies, a public, exclusive, pair-bond without children is just "betrothal," an honourable, organic step on the way to full "marriage," presumably with children. Some churches might adopt, not the two-part modern model that you have posted against in the past, but a two-stage traditional one in which the first stage is the state-registered contract customarily "signed" in church, and the second stage is unambiguously Christian. Indeed, the most conservative Orthodox have never abandoned such a model, and some complementarian congregations in the US are experimenting with it. # However, another unacknowledged reality is that women-- even complementarian women-- are quite cool to the idea that a marriage is Christian if and only if there is a gradient of power favouring the husband, whilst some of those most insistent on a Christian notion of marriage are men who fixate unhelpfully on just such a gradient. Plainly a celebration of coercion will not do. If there is to be a rite of Christian marriage for husband and wife, then it, or the customs around it, need to be more about a just harmony of their differences.

Reports of an Alternative Trust Fund established in Southwark
227 [22628] Posted by: Bowman Wednesday 12 December 2012 - 11:20pm
Thank you for the update, LondonVicar, but why is the Trust paying the Diocese anything, and why would such a payment trickle from parish to parish?

Redefining Marriage
228 [22627] Posted by: Bowman Wednesday 12 December 2012 - 11:14pm
Is marriage a contract or a status? In the Latin West, the law has always said that it is a contract and that is why gay marriage is a thinkable thought in the first place. From about the end of the first millennium, catholics have expanded upon the contract by having the clergy witness it and bless it, and later protestants have continued to witness, and sometimes to bless, whilst explaining the morality associated with it in the scriptures. Both have presented morality as depending solely on the will of God, which makes it seem rather arbitrary, because, on either view, it actually is arbitrary. So one can understand why, after all these centuries, our societies at large see marriage as a contract, and see the dispute as being about the morality one arbitrarily chooses to associate with it. They believe what the Church told them about marriage; they just don't believe in God. # However, after two millennia, some Christians in the West arguing against gay marriage [or OW(E)] seem to be discovering anew the alternate view of the Byzantine East-- marriage is a status of being for women and men that is created by Christ himself, and its morality reflects an inner nature which wisdom discovers in Him and to which the scriptures bear witness. So conceived, marriage is not adequately expressed as a civil contract that arbitrarily joins two wills for as long as it lasts, modified by canons promulgated in scripture. Though the Byzantine mind hates to limit a sacrament to a magic moment, the most indispensible part of a wedding is the couple receiving communion together. The state cannot have anything directly to do with this, and after a struggle, the patriarchs wrested the whole institution away from the emperors. # As Ken realises, the intensely theological vision of marriage that he describes would be news to a society that sees the exchange of promises as the wedding itself, and so he proposes a reform that would allow marriage in Christ to be lived out without hindrance. Evangelicals rethinking the nature of marriage have a conservative intent, but they may in fact become a social force for unexpected creativity in the 21st C.

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